00:00:00: Introduction
00:05:39: Construction for motivation
00:07:03: Goal…
00:07:50: … thought for motion: neglect objective
00:10:46: … thought for motion: inspiring quotes
00:13:22: Mastery…
00:13:28: … thought for motion: write a social media publish
00:18:57: … thought for motion: 5 small modifications
00:21:50: Autonomy…
00:24:26: … thought for motion: a no-contact work window
00:27:02: … thought for motion: media, mindset and motion
00:34:38: Utilizing ChatGPT
00:39:00: Closing ideas
Sarah Ellis: Hello, I am Sarah.
Helen Tupper: And I am Helen.
Sarah Ellis: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast. Each week, we speak about a subject to do with work and share some concepts and actions that we hope will show you how to to navigate this Squiggly Profession that we’re all having with a bit extra confidence, readability and management.
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So, all of these hyperlinks might be within the present notes, or you possibly can simply go to our web site, amazingif.com, and you’ll discover all of it there. So, immediately’s matter is about micro moments of motivation, as in what small issues can we do to really feel a bit higher about what we’re engaged on and the way in which we’re working and the way we’re getting our work carried out, in case it is likely to be feeling a bit troublesome proper now.
And I suppose the thought for this podcast has come from the place Sarah and I are each at proper now, kind of halfway by way of the yr, and in addition from some suggestions we have had from numerous learners which might be on our programs about how they’re feeling. It is this kind of midway into the yr, in order that considered the power of New Yr’s resolutions is lengthy gone, and there is nonetheless fairly a very long time to go. I believe I discuss to lots of people now, and so they’re kind of anchoring themselves to a summer time vacation. I really feel prefer it’s just like the summer time vacation’s in sight, and so they simply want a little bit of a lift to get them to that time. And that simply seems like the truth of numerous conversations that I am having with individuals proper now. So, we thought that perhaps some micro moments of motivation would possibly convey these issues a little bit bit nearer for you, show you how to get there a little bit bit extra rapidly and simply. Sarah, how are you feeling halfway by way of the yr? What’s your motivation ranges like?
Sarah Ellis: Nicely, not superb, I believe it is honest to say, although I do assume a few of these issues are nearly each day. It could possibly oscillate daily relying on how your day’s gone and what’s occurred. However I suppose in case your power reserves are decrease, then it impacts you faster. I believe that is what I discover, is that most likely some issues that may beforehand you would be like, “Oh, yeah, that is high-quality, that is not best, however I will transfer on to the following factor”, have a better impression on me and takes me a bit longer to get well. So even yesterday, my day was going fairly properly, however I had a disastrous prepare journey which then meant I missed a gathering that I needed to go to. So, I used to be dissatisfied I did not get to see any person and I would labored actually exhausting to seek out the time to make that assembly occur. My prepare journey was so disastrous, at one level the prepare simply began going backwards.
It was like, “We’re simply going to return, we will return”, and I used to be like, “Proper, can we not, can we not go backwards?” and it was boiling as properly. I used to be in a non-air-conditioned prepare and I believe it was about 26°, 27°, so I used to be simply sweaty and going within the fallacious path. And once you’re identical to, “Oh, God, I might actually do with out this”? And it was humorous, as a result of truly then once I lastly obtained to the station I wanted to go to having missed that assembly, I used to be then this and fascinated about concepts, and I undoubtedly began from fairly a low level of like, “I am not even motivated to consider motivation”. After which by the point I would gone by way of this and I’ve truly took some actions in a really quick window of time, in kind of a 24-hour window, it did make me really feel higher, I felt like I would made some progress.
I would kind of rebooted sufficient. Like right here, I do not assume we’re speaking about huge re-energising moments. I believe we’re speaking about rebooting sufficient in order that the following day could be a bit higher. I additionally assume it is essential to say that we’re not speaking right here about burnout in a extra vital means, burnout the place you’re feeling like, I suppose, the place you get extra to the purpose of apathy, otherwise you really feel such as you simply do not care and you are not linked or dedicated. I do assume that could be a totally different factor. I believe we’re speaking right here about when your day-to-day simply feels a little bit bit more durable than it usually would do; and in addition, such as you described, I get a bit like — as a result of I prefer to look forward, I’ve obtained a vacation coming and I am like, “I simply must get to the vacation”. And I do not actually like that feeling, as a result of I nonetheless need to do the day-to-day very well, however it may possibly really feel actually troublesome once you’re identical to, “I’ve simply obtained to final every week”, which is mainly a little bit bit how I am feeling proper now. How about you?
Helen Tupper: Yeah, I agree, it isn’t the burnout factor and it isn’t the do-this-for-ever factor, it is kind of a get you to a date, or for me it is much less of a vacation, it is a deadline. So, we have some actually essential deadlines arising and I really feel like they’re fairly exhausting for us to hit for numerous causes, and so I really feel like I want some micro moments of motivation simply to simply to maintain going to these deadlines.
I really feel like if I add these into my day, it can simply make it a bit simpler to get to that cut-off date. After which as soon as I’ve achieved that, I really feel like I’ve nearly hit a little bit of reset and I will not want so a lot of this stuff. However I believe whether or not you’ve got obtained a date, like a vacation, or a deadline, or perhaps it is a conclusion of a challenge, generally we simply want a little bit of a lift which might be type of simple issues to suit into our day. That is the place I am for the time being. I am not likely feeling low motivation, however I do really feel a little bit of strain to attain just a few issues, and subsequently a bit of additional motivation is simply going to make that really feel a bit simpler for me.
Sarah Ellis: Would not go amiss.
Helen Tupper: Yeah precisely, precisely that. Why would not you do a few of these issues? So, to be able to offer you some simple, tried and examined by Sarah and me, actions, we’re going to take Dan Pink’s construction for motivation as a little bit of a information for the episode. And we are going to hyperlink to his TED discuss and his ebook in our PodSheet for those who’ve not seen his work on drive, however I’ve all the time discovered it actually helpful once I’m unpacking motivation. It buildings it round these three areas. So, there’s objective, which is about working in direction of one thing that is type of significant and seems like extra than simply you. So, that might be the group or that might be what the organisation is making an attempt to attain, or one thing you are keen about past simply doing the do. So, objective is the primary ingredient.
The second is mastery, and that is about feeling like you’re frequently enhancing the talents you need to be identified for. And the third ingredient is autonomy. And that is about having a way of management over the what, when, and the way of your work. And once you put these three components collectively, objective, mastery, and autonomy, what you get out is drive and motivation. So, we thought we would take every space, and Sarah will speak about a tip that helps her, and I’ll speak about a tip that helps me, as a result of for those who’re a daily listener, you’ll know that we go about this stuff very in another way. However hopefully in that, so you may get six suggestions in whole, in that, there might be a micro second of motivation which you could match into your week, this week at work.
Sarah Ellis: So, beginning off with objective, and I believe that is once you maybe really feel a bit disconnected from the why, the why behind your work. Perhaps you’ve got misplaced sight a little bit of the objectives that you simply’re aiming in direction of, and perhaps you are feeling only a bit aimless; or, I think extra probably, perhaps you are simply very busy being busy. I do not discuss to that many people who find themselves like, “I do not really feel any sense of path”.
Which may occur sooner or later, however most of us I believe simply have these weeks or these days the place you are like, there’s a lot to ship or so many duties to tick off a to-do record, this concept of getting objective simply feels nearly means too lofty, like actually truly very totally different to our actuality day-to-day. So, my thought right here is definitely to neglect objective, as a result of I do assume generally there’s an excessive amount of strain on objective to really feel purposeful, to really feel such as you’re making an attempt to do one thing with objective. I do not assume on daily basis may be actually purposeful. So, I like this concept, which comes from Dan Cable’s work; he is been on our podcast earlier than. He is a professor at London Enterprise College the place he talks about connecting with issues moderately than objective. So, he talks about this concept of, like, comply with your blisters. So, these issues that truly, they’re a bit painful as a result of they do rub like a blister would do, however you possibly can’t assist however preserve doing it, preserve going after it, nearly going by way of the ache?
He describes it, and I used to be like, “Oh, it’s kind of gross”, however he describes it like going by way of the ache of a blister to get to the powerful pores and skin, and I used to be like, “Oh, vivid!” It is a bit gross, however I get what he is speaking about. I believe truly that generally actually helps me, as a result of , now we have a really clear mission, now we have very clear objectives in our firm, however I believe generally the factor that retains me going is sort of the nagging, niggly issues that we have not solved but, and it annoys me that we have not.
I generally assume I actually need to let go of these issues, and I want my persona was totally different, nevertheless it’s not. I care about fixing that downside. And generally it might be a lot smaller issues, like the way in which one thing appears or a course of or how we method one thing. And he describes it truly as nearly one thing which you could’t let go of. So, even for those who assume, “I would moderately be doing one thing extra enjoyable”, you continue to preserve going again to, “Oh, however that downside is chipping away in my thoughts”. And I truly discover having readability on issues to unravel is typically simpler than objective.
That, I believe, typically feels extra zoomed out and a much bigger query. However even for those who simply requested your self, “What’s one downside I might remedy immediately?” and that might be a extremely, actually small downside, that might be, “Reordering my priorities”, that is an issue to unravel immediately. Or one downside I need to remedy is, I’m going to choose up the cellphone to any person as a result of I must have a dialog about one thing, to unravel that downside. So, it isn’t once more like huge, huge issues. It is simply, “An issue I’ll remedy immediately is…”, after which simply try to remedy that downside. And I believe it lets you really feel such as you’re making progress. Nicely, it helps me.
Helen Tupper: I like the purpose you mentioned concerning the type of zooming out factor as properly, as a result of I additionally assume the thought of waking up and going, “How can I dwell my objective immediately?” seems like, I imply I am filled with admiration for individuals who try this, however usually I am like, “What have I obtained to do immediately?” is generally my first thought. However I believe objective and the thought of zooming out is what connects for me. And so, doing one thing that makes you zoom out of that default, “What do I must do immediately?” is the type of issues that work for me as these kind of micro moments of motivation. Now my tip right here may not be for everyone, however that is what works for me. So, I actually like, Sarah will most likely shake her head in a second, I actually like an inspiring quote and I do know that may appear a bit trite.
Sarah Ellis: I already learn this and ignored it!
Helen Tupper: So, for me although, once I’m zoomed in, it turns into very about my lists and my inbox and my duties. And once I zoom out and I learn somebody’s quotes, it helps me assume in another way and assume a bit greater and it will get me away from simply the — I all the time speak about this distinction between the human doing versus a human being. There are particular quotes that I learn that I believe, “Really, that’s how I need to work and that’s what I need my work to appear to be, and that is what is significant to me”.
And I typically discover that some sure quotes can join me to that feeling, that sense of what I need my work to be like, what’s one thing that is greater than simply what I am making an attempt to do immediately. So, for instance, one which I just lately learn from Stephen Hawking that simply caught with me, it is a longish one, it isn’t a super-snappy one, however I preferred it, “Bear in mind to lookup on the stars and never down at your ft. Attempt to make sense of what you see and surprise about what makes the universe exist. Be curious and nonetheless troublesome life could appear, there may be all the time one thing you are able to do and succeed at. It issues that you do not surrender”. And I learn that and go, “Oh, that isn’t about my inbox, it is about being curious and never giving up and all the time making an attempt to do higher and make sense of what I am seeing.
And I hooked up myself to that. And it is fast. To the purpose of micro moments of motivation, it is fast. What I’ve carried out truly in prepping for this podcast, it jogged my memory, I used to have this little purple pocket book, actually cute little Smythson pocket book, I like a pleasant pocket book. And I’d write each time I’d gather these quotes in it. It is half full and I ended doing it for some motive. I believe I modified my bag and left it after which obtained out of the behavior of it. However I flicked by way of that ebook, and all of those quotes that I like I would curated them in there, and that could be a super-shortcut, as a result of generally it’s a must to discover the quote to be able to be impressed by it, it takes a bit longer, however for those who gather and curate them, you then’ve obtained a extremely fast go-to for quotes. And this isn’t making an attempt to promote our ebook, however we did gather numerous actually good quotes. In each our first ebook, The Squiggly Profession, and our second ebook, You Coach You, there are some actually, I believe, good quotes.
I believe, Sarah, you collected a great deal of these, and so they all the time resonate with me. So, that is a little bit of a — I suppose we have carried out a little bit of a curation for you however I believe one of the best is once you type of gather and curate it your self. However yeah, that is what works for me for my objective second of motivation. So, the second space then is mastery. So, that is about frequently enhancing the talents that you simply need to be identified for. And my thought for motion on right here additionally will not go well with Sarah, it is about writing a social media publish.
However the motive this works for me is, and the rationale it helps with my mastery is, if I’ll write a publish, it would not must be a LinkedIn publish, it might be an e mail that you simply ship to your group or one thing you place in your intranet, nevertheless it’s the thought that you’re going to take one thing out of your head, like an thought or an perception that you’ve, and you’re going to talk it in a means that’s helpful to different individuals. And so I’ve to type of sit there and assume, what do I need to say; how am I going to say it; and what do I need individuals to assume, really feel, and do due to it? And that psychological course of I really feel actually helps me with my mastery. So for instance, yesterday I wrote a publish on them LinkedIn about mainly being a bit susceptible and asking, it was all about an occasion that I used to be eventually week and the truth that I needed to ask numerous individuals if I might come to their panels and issues, and be a bit susceptible to be able to create alternatives for me. And so I had to consider, “What is the message that I need to talk; how can I make it helpful; what do I need individuals to assume, really feel, and do on account of it?” And simply that technique of sitting down and gathering my ideas helps me to be clearer in myself after which create one thing that’s helpful to different individuals.
And I truthfully assume that being clearer in your self and creating one thing that’s helpful to different individuals, to me that is mastery. And no matter your factor is, it might be a couple of information instrument that you’ve, it might be about some productiveness factor that you’ve got labored out methods to do on a software program factor at work, or for me, it is usually about profession growth and creating alternatives. No matter your factor is, truthfully, the act of writing it down in order that it may be shared and helpful to different individuals, I discover that basically useful, like doubly useful, useful for me and useful for different individuals too.
Sarah Ellis: It is fascinating, as a result of once I was fascinated about this, to have the ability to do that properly, I do assume it’s a must to know, what do you need to be a grasp in? And listening to you then, truly, I wasn’t positive whether or not you have been considering, “Oh, it is mastery in writing”, which truly listening to you, I am going, “It isn’t that”. I used to be like, “Oh, is that as a result of one of many expertise that you’ve is writing?” So I used to be like, that is the way you get higher at writing. It sounded to me just like the ability that you simply need to be a grasp of goes, “Nicely, how do I take observations, my experiences, and share them in a means that’s helpful for different individuals, most likely helpful for different individuals’s profession?” Is that the — what is the ability, do you assume, that you are going, “I am an eight and I am making an attempt to get to a 9”?
Helen Tupper: Yeah, so I believe it is much less about — my expertise is kind of secondary. So in the end, the factor that I need to be a grasp of helps individuals with their growth. I need to encourage individuals and allow individuals to take management of their profession growth; that is the factor. For me, the act of sitting right here and considering like, “What’s a narrative I can inform; what’s an perception I’ve obtained; what’s an article that I’ve learn?” that may assist somebody obtain that end result, and nearly taking that and having… The purpose of writing is, I’ve to undergo the method of going, “What’s it on this story; how can I join that story to one thing that is going to assist somebody take motion with their profession growth?” However a LinkedIn publish, as a result of it must be quick, the entire level round, it is generally more durable to put in writing succinctly.
As a result of it is a social media publish, it’s a must to assume actually fastidiously about, what is the story; what is the message; what is the motion for somebody to remove? For me, the writing’s only a method to hone my perception to assist different individuals. I do not purpose to be the world’s greatest author on LinkedIn, I need to be sensible at profession growth, so it helps individuals be higher of their work; that is the factor. However I do discover that technique of succinctly getting your concepts collectively after which sharing it with different individuals in that means, and in addition you possibly can see what’s helpful in a short time and what’s not. So, I additionally assume with mastery, it is fairly good to get some suggestions since you would possibly assume you are nice, however nobody likes it then. So, it does truly offer you a little bit of a suggestions loop as properly, which I discover fairly helpful. And I have been doing that for some time and I’ve undoubtedly obtained higher at sharing quick profession insights and concepts with individuals on account of utilizing that, type of writing it down and sharing it.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, so I believe for those who’re listening to this, I believe the place to begin for mastery does must be, “Nicely, what do you need to be a grasp in?” And I believe listening to Helen there, that is fairly a giant ambition. That is type of mastering one thing that sounds fairly an bold purpose, and I went a lot smaller. So, once I was fascinated about it, I used to be like, “Okay, so what do I do continuously? The place does it matter that I am kind of actually, actually good?” when it comes to truly extra of, I believe, extra of a specialist ability maybe than truly listening to Helen describe. Helen’s ability there may be fairly a transferable expertise. Sure, Helen’s utilizing that expertise for the world of profession growth, however I might think about Helen utilizing that expertise in numerous totally different contexts. Whereas I kind of went, “Okay, one of many issues that we each spend a variety of time doing is profession growth workshops in corporations, and I need to be completely sensible at these. When persons are giving up their time to return and study with us, I need it to be probably the most helpful studying expertise that they’ve about their profession”. So I used to be considering, proper, I do know that we’re already fairly good at that, as a result of we already get a variety of suggestions, to Helen’s level. So, I really feel assured that we’re already having a very good impression.
And so, I attempted to consider 5 small modifications that if I made them, it kind of provides as much as greater than the sum of the elements, like actually small issues. So, what are small issues I might do to make these workshops even higher, to turn out to be much more of a grasp of delivering these workshops in a means that is helpful? And really, I discovered that 5 small modifications a extremely good forcing perform. So, I got here up with a distinct type of graphic that I needed so as to add into the workshops; altering barely one thing that we do when it comes to after we ask for suggestions, giving individuals one thing at no cost to say thanks for giving us that suggestions, that we do not do immediately; I’ve began to, and it is working properly, however constantly incorporate a little bit of AI into workshops as a result of it is fairly enjoyable and it is fairly fascinating; ensuring that there is a “when” query in each workshop.
I like when questions as a result of they encourage everybody to be actually particular, like when do you need to be extra assured; or when would you like your strengths to indicate up extra typically? It is very situational. So, I believe “when” questions are all the time helpful. I simply obtained into this record and it took me a bit. I obtained to 2 or three in a short time, after which truly I got here up with extra because the day went on. I began to essentially get pleasure from it, as a result of it actually appeals to my — this begins to get into, I like frequently enhancing and I like getting higher, however that is on a really particular kind of ability. What was fascinating is from fascinated about this, and it might have been in a day, one in all them we had kind of made occur, with a little bit of assist from our group, I believe it is value saying, inside a few hours. The suggestions concept that I would had, which was mainly as soon as somebody offers us some quick suggestions, let’s ship them a hyperlink to one thing free to allow them to get much more helpful profession growth, I used to be like, ought to we simply do that; ought to we simply experiment with this? We sorted it and it is going dwell immediately. And I used to be like, to that time about if the aim of doing that is to get extra motivation? I really feel extra motivated concerning the workshops I am now doing immediately as a result of I’ve made some constructive modifications to them in 24 hours, which I have never run previous you by the way in which, however simply nod alongside.
Helen Tupper: It is high-quality, that is high-quality! We’re about to go on to autonomy, Sarah, so I believe if I used to be like, “It isn’t high-quality”, I would be ruining your motivation in the course of the podcast. It makes me take into consideration, that factor that we will by no means do the maths on, the 1% higher factor that makes you no matter it’s, I do not know, “If you happen to’re 1% higher on daily basis, you may be 38%…”
Sarah Ellis: It provides as much as greater than — sure!
Helen Tupper: I do not need to find yourself when Sarah and I can by no means work out the maths on it. However I believe when you concentrate on mastery, you is likely to be considering, “I have to be this final professional within the factor that I do”. I imply, that is a variety of strain and that is going to take a variety of time. However truly, 5 small modifications, to Sarah’s level, you concentrate on them and you’ll most likely take a minimum of one in all them, you would most likely do actually, actually rapidly. And I believe these 5 small modifications are what in the end provides as much as mastery over the long run, if that is the way you’re approaching it.
Sarah Ellis: And so the final space is autonomy, feeling management over the what, when and the way of labor. And I used to be studying a extremely fascinating article truly in Harvard Enterprise Evaluate on this yesterday, and so they have been saying that there is been numerous chat about flexibility over the previous couple of years, and folks say everyone actually desires flexibility.
And their argument was truly, it is the fallacious phrase. What individuals really need is autonomy, as in that is the factor that basically motivates individuals. And suppleness is a part of the way you obtain that autonomy, however individuals feeling like they’ve management over how they get their job carried out, perhaps once they do their job, it is kind of autonomy that all of us try for, as a result of I believe it is that human must really feel in management. If you happen to do not feel in management, for those who really feel like another person is in command of your time or your work, you then simply begin to really feel such as you’re going again to command and management, that kind of system of working. And I believe all of us recognise we hardly ever do our greatest work in that means.
However equally, once I was reflecting on this one yesterday, I used to be like, “It is a powerful one”, I believe generally, if you end up in — most individuals have managers who would possibly take away some autonomy, simply because they’re like, “Nicely, this now must be carried out”. Most of us have numerous conferences or calls for on our day. I believe it’s totally uncommon that you simply simply go, “Oh, I simply have full autonomy over how I spend my days and my weeks”. Perhaps now we have greater than we maybe give ourselves credit score for, so I am positive there are undoubtedly some individuals who would argue, “Nicely, for those who actually began from scratch, you maybe do”. But when we’re considering right here about small moments of autonomy, I really feel like that is most likely how you’re feeling about autonomy, I used to be like, “How do I claw again?” And I used to be like, “Hmm, claw again”. However that’s what’s going by way of my head. How do you claw again a little bit of autonomy once you maybe really feel prefer it’s low? So, Helen, what would you do?
Helen Tupper: Nicely, are you aware what, that is the realm the place I really feel like I’ve obtained probably the most failed concepts in, as a result of I really feel, to your level, I need autonomy. I really feel in my head, I am like, “I would work so a lot better if I had autonomy”, and I’ve put a great deal of issues in place that simply have not actually labored as a result of I believe they have not mirrored the truth of the work.
So for instance, one thing that used to work properly for me was having like, I’d divide my week up into, “I will do that on a Monday and this on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and this on a Friday”, and I beloved that, nevertheless it did not actually final, as a result of the truth of labor made that not doable. And there’ve been different work techniques that I’ve put in place about how I handle my to-do lists, and all that type of stuff. And that felt good for every week, till everyone else had a listing for me and that was ridiculous. However the one factor that I’ve carried out that constantly offers me a sense of autonomy, and I believe it ticks the micro-moment factor, is a no-contact work window. It is a actually fast factor for me to do and I used to do it in Microsoft. I would do it very first thing within the day in Microsoft and it gave me a way of management earlier than the day went mad, and I do it in Superb If now. It’s actually placing a block of time in your diary, and it would not even must be loads, it might be like an hour or 90 minutes to be trustworthy, and it’s a no-contact work window. And I message this to individuals. I will message it to Sarah. I used to be realising, Sarah, as a result of what I usually name it’s I usually say, “I am going darkish for 90 minutes”, after which I used to be researching, I used to be like, “The place does that phrase come from?”
It is a type of navy statements. we’re all the time making an attempt to do away with navy language? Anyway, I simply bear in mind Sarah and I had this dialog ages in the past about navy language and the way it creeps into our conversations and we do not even realise it is there. “Going darkish” is a type of phrases, so I am not going to say that anymore. I’ll say, “It is a no-contact work window”. It most likely wants a greater, snappier title. However mainly I simply say, I am not going to be accessible throughout this time.
And it isn’t such a protracted time period that it is inconvenient for individuals. So, I am not going, “I am not going to be accessible all Friday”, it is identical to 90 minutes. However in that point, I get to do what I need to do in the way in which that I need to do it. So, perhaps there is a prototype factor I need to create on a profession instrument, or perhaps there is a little bit of studying, oh would not that sound beautiful, a little bit of studying to do and analysis and highlighting and sticking my Submit-it Notes in a ebook. However that simply offers me, I can nearly address the dearth of management I might need over my time in the remainder of the week, so long as I’ve that kind of micro second of a no-contact work window. That simply offers me a little bit of, I’ve obtained selection, I’ve obtained autonomy over this explicit second, and that simply carries by way of for fairly a very long time for me. So, that’s one thing realistically I’ve carried out for a lot of, a few years, and it offers me that sense of autonomy.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, I discover this one difficult as a result of I believe in the primary, I take a variety of accountability over ensuring I’ve excessive ranges of autonomy, after which it goes fallacious. And that has occurred previously, I do not know, couple of weeks a little bit bit. At that time, I discover it exhausting, as a result of I believe I am very totally different to you on this respect the place I am like, “This isn’t my default”. I am very used to feeling like I’ve excessive ranges of management.
So, when that goes away, I used to be saying to you, I get pissed off and I get a bit blamey. I get blamey of myself and get blamey of different individuals. I am a bit like, “How has this occurred?” And in numerous methods, it is actually unhelpful as a result of it would not actually transfer you ahead and it definitely would not enhance your autonomy. So, I used to be actually difficult myself on this yesterday considering, in a second the place I do not really feel like I’ve a lot autonomy and I do not get pleasure from that, it actually does impression my motivation, what can I try this’s a lot, a lot smaller? As a result of I am going to kind of the other to you. I am going to love systemic modifications. I am like, “Proper!”
Helen Tupper: You do! You both go, “Let’s cease the whole lot or let’s basically change”!
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, I do. I’ve these like actual moments of like, “Okay, properly…”, and humorous sufficient, I really feel actually comfy doing that, which I do assume is an efficient ability. I am like, “What can we take away? What can we reduce? What can we subtract?” like, helpful questions, nevertheless it’s generally prompted by the fallacious level.
Helen Tupper: Sure!
Sarah Ellis: So, I simply kind of go, “Nicely, let’s simply do loads much less, like utterly rethink. That is what we have to do”.
Helen Tupper: I’ve truthfully discovered to experience that response, as a result of my default response is absolutely defensive.
Sarah Ellis: I do know!
Helen Tupper: Once you try this I am like, “That is the worst factor to do!”
Sarah Ellis: I did it yesterday, and I used to be considering, “I guess that is actually winding Helen up”.
Helen Tupper: Yeah!
Sarah Ellis: I used to be like, “Nicely, let’s simply do hundreds much less, as a result of that simply utterly solves this downside”. And I used to be considering, “I do know that Helen cannot reply to this proper now as a result of I do know she’s doing one thing”, and I used to be like, “I guess it’s a must to learn this, take a deep breath, after which resolve”.
Helen Tupper: I simply experience the response.
Sarah Ellis: I nonetheless truly assume that was fairly a good suggestion.
Helen Tupper: Oh, simply let it go!
Sarah Ellis: You’ve got satisfied me, perhaps, I do not know. You truly have not even talked to me about it, so I assume you are simply going to disregard it!
Helen Tupper: I am driving the response.
Sarah Ellis: “Driving the response”. Yeah, so I discover this one actually powerful, yeah, as a result of I believe not my pure place. I discover it actually exhausting, after which I believe I am going to essentially dramatic options, which are sometimes not, , perhaps generally they’re good concepts, however generally not good concepts. So, I obtained to a few issues, and I used to be like, “Oh, okay, I’ve carried out all of those three issues within the final 24 hours, and it has been helpful, and they’re much smaller”. So, I’ve gone for media, mindset and motion.
So, social media, I’ve deleted Instagram and LinkedIn from my cellphone, I’ve simply eliminated them from my residence display screen, so you possibly can put them again or no matter. And I do use LinkedIn for work, however I’ve obtained that on my laptop computer. So I used to be like, “Why have I obtained that on my cellphone? Do not want it”. Assume I want a break from Instagram.
I believe Instagram is typically my default when, like I want a break, however I used to be like, I am not satisfied that’s giving me a break, and it would not gas my curiosity, it mainly prices me cash as a result of I see issues and I am like, “Oh, I’ll purchase that factor!” I do not assume that is a very good factor, so I used to be like, “Proper, okay”, so I did that yesterday.
And it is humorous, is not it, you are so used to going to that half in your cellphone, and truly yesterday it did give me a break, and I used to be like, okay, I felt like I simply obtained a bit extra management over my time as a result of I wasn’t doing that factor. So, I did that, really feel high-quality about it. The mindset, I used to be at an occasion final evening listening to a man known as Sal Khan, who’s the founding father of Khan Academy, which for those who’re listening within the UK, Khan Academy is not as huge within the UK, nevertheless it’s huge within the US and truly all all over the world. For no matter motive, it is simply not been as huge within the UK. However it’s a not-for-profit the place it is a variety of on-line tutoring. Began in additional like maths areas, however now it is gone into like a great deal of different areas. And it is huge, we’re speaking lots of and lots of of thousands and thousands of individuals use it. And on the again of his ebook, his first testimony was from Invoice Gates, simply to place it into context. And I used to be going to that occasion and feeling a bit grumpy. I used to be post-my dangerous prepare journey, I used to be questioning, is it even the best factor to do to go to this occasion, as a result of I would obtained numerous different type of competing issues I wanted to get carried out, and I used to be considering, “I am not feeling nice”.
However I used to be like, “I do have a selection and I’ve obtained autonomy over my mindset”. And I used to be like, “I’m going to go to this occasion and I’ll go along with an actual learn-it-all mindset and actually take into consideration listening, and in a means the place I might share what I discovered with different individuals”. And I used to be like, “I’ve obtained a great deal of autonomy over how I flip as much as this occasion”. And nearly like, “If I am not going to show as much as this occasion with that mindset, I’d as properly not hassle”. And I used to be like, “I’ve obtained autonomy over that”. So, I did that, after which truly it was actually inspiring, I used to be actually glad I went. And he had a very good bit of recommendation truly. Somebody requested him for profession recommendation, and his profession recommendation when it comes to discovering stuff that evokes you, he mentioned, “Make area on daily basis to discover”, however small. He was speaking about small pockets of area to discover, like be curious. And he was a giant fan of the significance of curiosity. So I used to be like, “Oh, okay”, in order that was like, truly, I might join the dots with one thing I used to be grappling with, with one thing he mentioned. So, I used to be like, “Received a selection about that”, and I felt good having been.
Then the motion one was once more, I get a bit pissed off. When my autonomy goes away, I am unable to do a number of the train I need to do. So, like this week, I am unable to do any of the train I would usually do, and once more I get all irritated about that for all kinds of causes. However then I used to be like, “Okay, however what can I do?” I can stroll on daily basis. And so, I truly walked to this occasion yesterday as a result of I used to be like, “I can stroll”. I’ve obtained an occasion tonight, truly going to see Helen in motion, going to see Helen communicate. I’ve seemed, I can stroll to that, so I used to be like, “Proper, I will stroll to that later”. And so, sure, I am unable to do what I’d usually do, however some strolling is nice, it is good for me, it’s kind of of outdoor area, a bit of outdoor time. And I really feel like once more, that is a little bit of autonomy I’ve over my day. I can select to get to someplace by strolling, often by simply leaving a little bit bit extra time, or generally you do not even have to go away extra time. Or, recording this podcast, we’re recording it comparatively early within the morning, which that tells you the whole lot it’s essential learn about our weeks, given I’m not a morning individual, which you will or could not be capable to hear in my tone this morning.
However I did say to Helen, “May we begin quarter-hour later?” as a result of that quarter-hour is mainly the distinction between me having the ability to go for a stroll and possibly not. And Helen was like, “Yeah, that is high-quality”. Between us, we have been like, you do have these small pockets of autonomy which you could create, and I did really feel higher. Media, mindset, motion, I used to be like, in every week the place I really feel like my autonomy has gone out the window, and that’s having fairly a giant ripple impact on me in all kinds of how, I’ve gained again a little bit little bit of autonomy in these areas and do really feel a bit higher due to it. Is it best? No. However I believe it helps me a little bit bit with the acceptance, moderately than the dramatic, “Oh, let’s change the whole lot!” which I do not know why I try this, however I believe… I do not know. It is simply, it undoubtedly is the place I am going with this one. It should matter a lot to me, I suppose, perhaps.
Helen Tupper: I believe it is all only a want for management, is not it?
Sarah Ellis: In all probability!
Helen Tupper: I believe all of it comes from that. And I see it, and I get it. So hopefully, in listening to us, you will have heard a minimum of one concept that you would perhaps undertake or perhaps adapt with the intention to get a micro second of motivation. However I truly assume the larger factor is to consider objective, mastery, and autonomy for you, and perhaps take into consideration, “Nicely, what’s my micro second? What is the factor that may actually assist me there?” And it is likely to be one thing we mentioned or it is likely to be one thing totally different, however I believe nearly having these concepts in your again pocket with the intention to go, “Have you learnt what? Right now, I’ll do a type of high-autonomy actions”, or, “Right now, I’m going to put in writing one thing down that I learn this week and I’ll share it with a colleague, as a result of it will assist me assume it by way of and really feel helpful and like I do know what I am doing, and provides me that feeling of mastery a little bit bit”. These small issues are so helpful as a result of once you’re leaning into that day that simply appears a bit troublesome, simply doing one in all these small issues makes it a bit simpler and having simple actions to extend our motivation I believe is a helpful end result for everybody.
Sarah Ellis: And I’ve began to place our podcast matters and questions into ChatGPT every week.
Helen Tupper: Ooh, that is thrilling!
Sarah Ellis: After I’ve provide you with the concepts, as a result of in any other case I am undecided but if I might do it the opposite means round. I really feel like I need to proceed to assume for myself first after which put it into ChatGPT.
Helen Tupper: What did it inform you?
Sarah Ellis: Nicely, my query, as a result of I do assume the prompts are essential. Nicely, that is what I am studying, the prompts are essential with AI. I am undecided I’ve obtained my prompts proper but, however the immediate I used was, “What concepts might I check out if I want a lift of motivation at work?” as a result of I used to be making an attempt to make use of that enhance to be a brief factor. Now firstly, I imply it isn’t essentially all the time amount over high quality. It does offer you a variety of concepts. It was like 16 factors with mini bullet factors below the 16 factors. So, for those who have been caught, I do assume ChatGPT might get you began. So, I wasn’t caught as a result of I would already carried out the concepts.
However I used to be like, if I used to be, there’s quantity right here to choose and select from. After which you possibly can apply your mind the other method to the way in which that I approached it. However I simply picked out one which was, they speak about — they? I do not know, how do you describe a ChatGPT? They? It? Yeah, talked about reward techniques, which truly we have not talked about immediately. So, it talked about having a reward system for finishing duties. So, maybe with any of these objective, mastery, or autonomy, you all the time do really feel motivated for those who’re like, “I did this factor after which I kind of get a factor”. All of us just like the carrot, proper? And so they gave some examples.
They have been like, “It might be about, ‘Oh, I’ll spend a while with a pal or a passion or have a deal with or no matter'”. So, I used to be like, “Okay, rewards, good factor”. The opposite factor it talked about as a part of a reward system was, we enhance our motivation when now we have selection in duties. So, I suppose once more, monotony, you would possibly get to the purpose the place you are dropping motivation as a result of I am doing a variety of the identical factor. So, it was speaking about combine it up, primarily, between perhaps one thing that is a bit more difficult or one thing that is a bit simpler or one thing that is totally different, simply to ensure, for those who’re doing a variety of the identical factor. And once more, I can see how that may enhance your motivation.
And I most likely would not have considered that final one, you and I would not have considered that final one, as a result of now we have naturally a variety of selection. So, we most likely already get the motivation enhance that comes from selection. However for those who do not, I used to be like, “Oh, that might be fascinating”. Then, I truly assume you and I are each fairly good at rewarding ourselves. We each know what — our treats are very totally different; yours and my treats are very totally different. However I believe now we have each obtained used to being like, “Oh, we want a little bit deal with in our day”.
Helen Tupper: That is so true! I purchased myself a chocolate truffle on the way in which residence yesterday from the prepare station and I used to be like, “It has been actually exhausting, however I’ve obtained my chocolate truffle, it is all going to be high-quality!”
Sarah Ellis: I imply, speak about chocolate, I’ve purchased some chocolate raisins for this night. I do like a chocolate raisin; they’re actually dangerous for you although! It is extremely popular in London for the time being, so these chocolate raisins are within the fridge and I think I will get to them about 10.00pm, which can or will not be the best time to eat chocolate. However I used to be like, “Oh, however that could be a little deal with on the finish of my day”.
And I additionally do have a look at my day and assume, “Oh, it isn’t like a deal with, however I undoubtedly do assume my reward is a break”, a 15-minute break the place I will go and get — and immediately, it will be an iced espresso trigger it is extremely popular; an iced espresso, I will stroll across the block. I imply, it isn’t like deal with, deal with, however these. I discovered this just lately the place some individuals have emailed us profession questions, which I’d undoubtedly encourage you to do, and concepts, and we love listening to from individuals.
I typically reply with my concepts first, after which I truly copy and paste the ChatGPT response simply to go, “However there may additionally be one thing right here that may spark one thing for you”. And I believe one of many issues, one of many ambitions that we have got over the remainder of this yr is to maintain experimenting with and preserve utilizing AI as a part of the profession growth that we convey to everyone. So, for those who’re utilizing AI in an fascinating means to your profession growth, tell us the way it’s serving to you and we’ll preserve letting in order that we will all study collectively, as a result of I believe that is the purpose that most likely most of us are at with AI, is the purpose of taking part in. Let’s play with it and let’s experiment with it, and clearly the body that we’re notably excited about is, how can it make your Squiggly Profession even higher? So, that was my small try this week, and that was most likely a little bit little bit of me, the mastery round careers, I used to be like, “Oh, okay, that is me making an attempt to get a bit higher at one thing the place I nonetheless take into account myself a newbie.
Helen Tupper: So, we are going to put all of our concepts for motion into the PodSheet, so you’ve got obtained these there. And as I mentioned at first, you will get that from the notes, the present notes on wherever you are getting the podcast from, or simply discover it on our web site at amazingif.com. However for those who’ve obtained any questions, or as Sarah talked about, for those who’ve obtained any suggestions on AI and the way you are utilizing it when it comes to your growth, you will get in contact with us. We’re helenandsarah@squigglycareers.com.
Sarah Ellis: However that is the whole lot for this week. Thanks a lot for listening, and we’ll be again with you once more quickly. Bye for now.
Helen Tupper: Bye, everybody.